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August 4th, 2009

Hadron Collider's mysterious disappearing magnets

Posted by Richard Koman @ August 4, 2009 @ 10:23 AM

Categories: Government technology

Tags: Electron, Magnet, E-mail, Online Communications, Richard Koman


It’s beginning to seem that the Large Hadron Collider may never be able to produce the gargantuan amount of energy that caused many to fear it would create a world-ending black hole.

The Times reports that the collider’s magnets have been massively under performing. Rather than the seven trillion electron volts it was supposed to produce, the collider, when it finally comes back online - after spending a year fixing some 5,000 bad splice solders - may only kick it up to four trillion volts. The article explains:

All of the magnets for the collider were trained to an energy above seven trillion electron volts before being installed, Myers said, but when engineers tried to take one of the rings’ eight sectors to a higher energy last year, some magnets unexpectedly failed.

In an e-mail exchange, Lucio Rossi, head of magnets for CERN, said that 49 magnets had lost their training in the sectors tested and that it was impossible to estimate how many in the entire collider had gone bad. He said the magnets in question had all met specifications and that the problem might stem from having sat outside for a year before they could be installed.

That means a lengthy period of time to retrain the magnet, maybe a lot of magnets. And so, the collider may wind up forever operating at a lower power level.

Many physicists say they would be perfectly happy if the collider never got above five trillion electron volts. If that were the case, said Joe Lykken, a Fermilab theorist who is on one of the CERN collider teams, “It’s not the end of the world. I am not pessimistic at all.”

For now, they’re looking at four trillion. And maybe they should be happy with that.

Pauline Gagnon, an Indiana University physicist who works at CERN, said she would happily take that energy level. “The public pays for this,” she said in an e-mail message, “and we need to start delivering.”

The only question is: Is a mere four trillion electron volts sufficient to create that black hole?

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  • Most Recent of 23 Talkback(s)
The black hole has already been created!
It's the large dark hole that all the money has disappeared into.....

Looks like this bunch must have had USA government help, you can't mess things up that much without a professionals help.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Reality Bites Posted on: 08/05/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
black hole  nothingness | 08/04/09
sorry  nothingness | 08/04/09
Yup, thats the therory  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/09
The year 2012.  bjbrock | 08/04/09
Huh?  FrankleeMiDeer | 08/04/09
You need to do a little reading...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/09
They are...  ScratchCA | 08/04/09
Not some dead Mayens  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/09
It has to mean something...  storm14k | 08/04/09
No, the end of the world is 2038!  pauliusp | 08/04/09
Then, install 64-bit Seven. happy  mgp3 | 08/04/09
Then the world would end immediately. (nt)  storm14k | 08/04/09
Lucio Rossi has the best job title ...  dkawalec | 08/04/09
No one is creating a Black Hole with the LHC  mwagner@... | 08/04/09
Not true at all  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/09
The black hole has already been created...  Richard Flude | 08/04/09
All you really need to do to make a black hole...  MadWhiteHatter | 08/04/09
RE: Hadron Collider's mysterious disappearing magnets  Jay1000 | 08/04/09
RE: Hadron Collider's mysterious disappearing magnets  neverhome | 08/04/09
Darn, I forgot  rkoman@... | 08/04/09
RE: Hadron Collider's mysterious disappearing magnets  neverhome | 08/04/09
$$$  Technogeez | 08/05/09
The black hole has already been created!  Reality Bites | 08/05/09

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