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July 31st, 2009

Kindle lawsuit not so 'ridiculous'

Posted by Richard Koman @ July 31, 2009 @ 11:32 AM

Categories: Government technology

Tags: Lawsuit, Amazon.com Inc., Digital Content, Chris Dawson, Chris, Richard Koman

Chris Dawson thinks this: If you don’t like buying online products only to have them remotely deleted without so much as a “have a nice day,” …

Don’t buy a bloody Kindle!

Chris thinks that Amazon’s terms of service create a contractual bar to any action against the company. I disagree.

Chris’s post comes in response to a class action lawsuit filed by Justin Gawronksi and A. Bruguier, who claim to have suffered damages from Amazon’s remote wiping of “1984.” These complaints can be boring to read, so you gotta appreciate one that begins:

With an uncanny knack for irony, Amazon recently remotely deleted any traces of certain electronic copies of George Orwell’s “1984” and “Animal Farm” from customers’ Kindles and iPhones, thereby sending these books down Orwell’s so-called “memory hole.”

The key issue in the plaintiffs’ complaint seems to me whether Amazon violated its terms of service.

Use of Digital Content. Upon your payment of the applicable fees set by
Amazon, Amazon grants you the non-exclusive right to keep a permanent copy of
the applicable Digital Content and to view, use, and display such Digital Content
an unlimited number of times, solely on the Device or as authorized by Amazon
as part of the Service and solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Digital
Content will be deemed licensed to you by Amazon under this Agreement unless
otherwise expressly provided by Amazon.

It’s a nonexclusive right to a permanent copy. I don’t see anything in this language that suggests that the permanence is revocable.

Of course the damages are nominal for any given user - perhaps just 99 cents. Or perhaps the cost of the whole Kindle. That’s why it’s a class action. But, no, I don’t think it’s a ‘ridiculous’ lawsuit.

  • Talkback
  • Most Recent of 31 Talkback(s)
RE: Kindle lawsuit not so 'ridiculous'
Amazon deserves a class action lawsuit.
This kind of practice, not covered by license agreement, must be punished.

That's why DRM sucks, from Sony rootkits, to Amazon's arbitrary breaching t... (Read the rest)
Posted by: the_fiddler_on_the_roof Posted on: 08/24/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
"As Authorized"  gafisher@... | 07/31/09
"As authorized" refers to the device on which the content is read ...  bored2tears | 07/31/09
That's one interpretation...  bhartman36 | 07/31/09
If they didn't put it in writing it isn't there.  deowll | 07/31/09
But that's exactly the point...  bhartman36 | 08/01/09
RE: Kindle lawsuit not so 'ridiculous'  kubb | 07/31/09
No.  deowll | 07/31/09
"Illegal Use" is a reason...  bhartman36 | 08/03/09
You can write ANYTHING you want into a contract ....  kd5auq | 07/31/09
Not Good  J_a_Y | 07/31/09
Silly analogy  jfgeschmidtt | 07/31/09
RE: Kindle lawsuit not so 'ridiculous'  Daedalu | 07/31/09
Only 99 Cents?  madrucke@... | 07/31/09
revocable permanence  markbn | 07/31/09
Which is the issue.  deowll | 07/31/09
Illegal Use...  bhartman36 | 08/04/09
The damages in this case  Lerianis10 | 08/01/09
"Good Faith"  John Zern | 08/01/09
Copyright infringement...  wolf_z | 08/01/09
Is it copyright infringement?  Pliny the Elder | 08/02/09
Exactly.  John Zern | 08/02/09
Well said, with one caveat...  bhartman36 | 08/03/09
What no one has remarked on...  wolf_z | 08/01/09
rms  epcraig | 08/02/09
Totally against DRM...  cdiazh | 08/02/09
I agree that Kindle lawsuit is not 'ridiculous'  mwagner@... | 08/02/09
And how far of a background check do you do  GuidingLight | 08/03/09
Darm...You missed it by that much...  bhartman36 | 08/03/09
Yet another reason to stick with printed books  Palmetto | 08/03/09
RE: Kindle lawsuit not so 'ridiculous'  iron99 | 08/05/09
RE: Kindle lawsuit not so 'ridiculous'  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 08/24/09

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