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June 18th, 2009

Wow! Jury verdict in Capitol v Thomas-Rasset: $2 million

Posted by Richard Koman @ June 18, 2009 @ 3:29 PM

Categories: Copyright

Tags: Verdict, Richard Koman

Via Recording Industry v The People:

In Capitol Records v. Thomas-Rasset, the jury has returned a verdict in favor of plaintiffs in the amount of $1,920,000.00, or $80,000.00 per song file.

Ray Beckerman notes that’s 228,571 times the actual damages.

Well I guess there is going to be a third trial. I hope that during the next trial the technical evidence will be challenged, that the issue of recoverability of statutory damages will be tested, and that the plaintiffs will be required to prove (a) dissemination of copies (b) to the public, (c) by a sale or other transfer of ownership, or by lease, rental, or lending, before being deemed to have shown an infringement of the distribution right. The nonsensical exorbitancy of the verdict actually enhances the constitutionality argument, demonstrating how open ended the statute is if the RIAA’s wild eyed interpretation of it is allowed to survive.

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Was Thomas-Rasset hurting the RIAA, the recording artists, or both?  HypnoToad72 | 06/18/09
RIAA, Sony, EMI, Warner, Universal - the evil quartet  BillDem | 06/18/09
228,571 times the actual damages  snafu_77 | 06/18/09
I did not buy any music for a very long time...  Grayson Peddie | 06/18/09
Nonsensical exorbitancy  johnfenjackson@... | 06/19/09
I find the jury guilty of stupidity!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
Are you OK, fella?  James T. Kirk | 06/19/09
Yes I support copyright  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
Why not?  UAC nanny screen | 06/19/09
Why? Because they did their job.  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
Jury deserves blame.  Zyloch | 06/19/09
No, its far more than that.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
Copyright and Patent Law  Dr_Zinj | 06/19/09
To Promote Progress  rkoman@... | 06/19/09
Well, that's what its supposed to be... (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
Right. But...  mejohnsn | 06/20/09
A court has one role, to hand out "justice".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
The RIAA has been a loose cannon for a long, long time....  UAC nanny screen | 06/19/09
No, RIAA did nothing wrong, the law makers and courts  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
Point at the legislature not the courts  Tekman | 06/20/09
Puh-leease....  UAC nanny screen | 06/21/09
I don't think so....  James Quinn | 06/21/09
I don't know...  scripter | 06/19/09
"Seems to me the defendants must have really ticked off the jury"  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
They're not going to get blood out of a stone  UAC nanny screen | 06/19/09
Good luck.  Tekman | 06/20/09
And what makes you think that won't happen  UAC nanny screen | 06/21/09
Jury Nullification  Dr_Zinj | 06/19/09
Why would they?  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
Question good Dr.  Tekman | 06/20/09
It's exceptional, that's why.  Timpraetor | 06/19/09
No, thats not what happened here.  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
This is a great example  rkoman@... | 06/19/09
Good point, however...  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
Two words that strike fear . . .  brian ansorge | 06/19/09
Jury selection  raelalt | 06/19/09
zing! nt  midenginedrift | 06/19/09
RE: "Palin" comment  brian ansorge | 06/19/09
Nope  Tekman | 06/20/09
You have to wonder...  wolf_z | 06/19/09
Illegaly obtained evidence is Illegal and therefore not valid  news_reader | 06/19/09
Single mother of four  Kaiwai | 06/19/09
Well...  James T. Kirk | 06/19/09
Well................  Stuka | 06/19/09
No theft involved. It doesn't meet the definition.  Cayble | 06/19/09
She knew what she was doing was wrong!  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
Is that really true?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
Would it really make you feel better if I used the term illegal?  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
People have died...  UAC nanny screen | 06/19/09
Sad, but true. So what's your point? nt  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
It does not "fit the crime". (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
For once, I agree with No_Ax  UAC nanny screen | 06/21/09
I am not defending her specific actions  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
By point  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
First point said it all  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/09
The message has backfired  UAC nanny screen | 06/21/09
That's not the point...  Zyloch | 06/19/09
So the mother bears no responsibility for the situation?  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
What about the kids?  theguru1995@... | 06/19/09
This case is that cut and dry.  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
Let's hope you don't have to pay a fine like that...  UAC nanny screen | 06/19/09
Let's hope I'm smart enough to settle before it gets that far. nt  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
That's exactly what they want  UAC nanny screen | 06/21/09
The children unless named are not an issue  Tekman | 06/20/09
Part right part wrong.  Cayble | 06/19/09
A rebuttal  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
AMEN! Thank you.  Tekman | 06/20/09
Don't be a pr*ck  Kaiwai | 06/20/09
No pr*ck here.  Tekman | 06/20/09
Anonymity turns people into monsters  Kaiwai | 06/21/09
Well said  UAC nanny screen | 06/21/09
Whats your point?  Chippolus | 06/19/09
I support Copyright, but...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
RE: Wow! Jury verdict in Capitol v Thomas-Rasset: $2 million  rbloss@... | 06/19/09
Good thought,  dubtek | 06/21/09
Judgment = terrorism  ejhonda | 06/19/09
BIG win for the RIAA!!!  Beat a Dead Horse | 06/19/09
bankruptcy  rkoman@... | 06/19/09
RE: Wow! Jury verdict in Capitol v Thomas-Rasset: $2 million  goldenpirate@... | 06/19/09
Let's go for 2 trillion $  RDrr | 06/19/09
Let's hope I'm smart enough to settle before it gets that far. nt  pmcgrath@... | 06/19/09
RIAA counts on it people like you!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/19/09
Some legal questions for Mr Koman :  mhenriday | 06/19/09
Some answers  rkoman@... | 06/19/09
damages "actually" suffered.  john@... | 06/19/09
RE: Wow! Jury verdict in Capitol v Thomas-Rasset: $2 million  p0figster | 06/19/09
Many criminal convictions  dubtek | 06/21/09
WTF? $2 million...... I bet I know who's the next RIAA victim is...  TooDamnEZ | 06/20/09
Prove the money 'lost'  Kaiwai | 06/20/09
A Song is Worth More than a Life  trentreviso | 06/25/09

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