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March 23rd, 2009

YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos

Posted by Richard Koman @ March 23, 2009 @ 10:45 PM

Categories: Government technology

Tags: YouTube Inc., Video, Warner Music Group Corp., Corporate Communications, Digital Media, Marketing, Consumer Electronics, Personal Technology, Richard Koman

Thousands of user-created videos- or at least their audio tracks - have disappeared from YouTube, and the question is who’s fault is it?

The New York Times reports that many YouTube users have found themselves in the same position as high school sophomore Juliet Weybret, who posted a video of herself playing piano and singing “Winter Wonderland.”

Her video was removed “as a result of a third-party notification by the Warner Music Group,” YouTube informed her.

But Warner says it’s not their fault.

“We and our artists share the user community’s frustration when content is unavailable. YouTube generates revenues from content posted by fans, which typically requires licenses from rights holders. Under the current process, we make YouTube aware of WMG content. Their content ID tool then takes down all unlicensed tracks, regardless of how they are used,” said Will Tanous, a spokesman for Warner Music.

In other words, Warner provides a very long list of copyright materials and Google’s tool goes through and wipes them all out, regardless of how fair the use might be.

It’s yet another example of how broken the DMCA regime is. Google believes it is legally obligated to take down every instance of a reported copyright work. More to the point, the scale is so huge it sends its robots out to do the takedowns.

Under DMCA, users can file an objection to the take-down, but the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s Fred von Lohmann says:

“People are somewhat intimidated by the possibility of being sued by one of the music companies, even if they have a free lawyer, like us.”

So a very large amount of fair-use works are simply taken down, and the digital speech that is the currency of our modern age simply goes offline.

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"Now given"? Actually...
...whether or not they've been paying it, the case often is that they should.

Last i heard, every time the Georgia Tech band plays the Tech fight soneg, "Ramblin' Wreck..." they owe twenty-two cents to the current rights holder (Paul McCartney, i think).... (Read the rest)
Posted by: fairportfan Posted on: 04/22/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Its so sad...  kmzdnetone | 03/23/09
The reason they remove the videos ...  dkawalec | 04/04/09
Actually, not quite true.  Joel R | 04/08/09
RE: YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos  Snak | 03/24/09
RE: YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos  mr1972 | 03/24/09
Congrats: Scored a 9.8 on my hyperbole meter  JohnMcGrew@... | 03/24/09
was that SOLELY YOUR IDEA?  BlueBerry Pick'n | 03/24/09
Well, what I wouldn't consider "solely my own creation"...  JohnMcGrew@... | 03/24/09
Not necessarily.  Joel R | 04/08/09
this is why GPL must be extended to content  Linux Geek | 03/24/09
Well that's unnecessarily inflamatory, isn't it?  rshores | 03/24/09
RE: YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos  geekbynecessity | 03/24/09
Not to be cruel but, so what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/24/09
that's not a bright question  BlueBerry Pick'n | 03/24/09
THATS ALOT OF SHOUTING!  UsersRevil | 03/24/09
That's the problem  jfalchek | 03/25/09
It's just...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
That's it...  gvtooker@... | 03/24/09
Hammer, nail, head  UsersRevil | 03/24/09
Well, one could...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Patents, Copyright, trademarks and Intellectual Property  sboverie@... | 03/24/09
Happy birthday:  rshores | 03/24/09
Replying to Patents Copyright Etc  john33xyz | 03/24/09
NOW you're THINKING...  BlueBerry Pick'n | 03/24/09
HUH?  strider1234 | 04/03/09
The 'balance' should always come down on the side of the public rights  Lerianis | 04/04/09
Actually, Happy Birthday To You is NOT legitimately copyrighted!  Joel R | 04/08/09
Fair use  hornerea | 03/24/09
WGASA about copyright anymore?  jabster17 | 03/24/09
I wonder how many were by anti-corporate hegemony  BlueBerry Pick'n | 03/24/09
RE: YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos  guicharlie | 03/24/09
WMG doesn't want the video removed, it wants to get paid  brad@... | 03/24/09
Schools must pay for kindergarten recitals!  jocaan@... | 03/25/09
In short, yes.  JLHenry | 04/05/09
"Now given"? Actually...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Unfortunately, we signed the treaty.  Joel R | 04/09/09
RE: YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos  ZenaPrincess | 03/24/09
Overkill!  preachjohn | 03/25/09
Obviously I'm missing something here  Beat a Dead Horse | 03/25/09
Beat A Dead Horse? No Way!  preachjohn | 03/25/09
RE: YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos  psquare11 | 03/25/09
So?  z33511@... | 03/25/09
Its about *smacking people around* & whether DESERVED OR NOT  BlueBerry Pick'n | 03/26/09
Good On You Blueberry!  preachjohn | 03/26/09
RE: YouTube takes down thousands of fair-use videos  terrydean@... | 03/28/09
Battle of the robots  pbohanna@... | 03/30/09
WMG is now having people arrested for humming a WMG tune and not paying  Ed L | 04/03/09
Don't be intimidated  MooseBoys | 04/15/09

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