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January 19th, 2009

EU says IE violates antitrust

Posted by Richard Koman @ January 19, 2009 @ 9:33 AM

Categories: Antitrust, International, Microsoft

Tags: Antitrust, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Corp., Web Browser, Web Browsers, Internet, Richard Koman

Microsoft unfairly boosts market share of Internet Explorer by tying it to Windows, the European Commission has found in a preliminary conclusion delivered to Microsoft last week.

The evidence gathered during the investigation leads the Commission to believe that the tying of Internet Explorer with Windows, which makes Internet Explorer available on 90% of the world’s PCs, distorts competition on the merits between competing web browsers insofar as it provides Internet Explorer with an artificial distribution advantage which other web browsers are unable to match. The Commission is concerned that through the tying, Microsoft shields Internet Explorer from head to head competition with other browsers which is detrimental to the pace of product innovation and to the quality of products which consumers ultimately obtain. In addition, the Commission is concerned that the ubiquity of Internet Explorer creates artificial incentives for content providers and software developers to design websites or software primarily for Internet Explorer which ultimately risks undermining competition and innovation in the provision of services to consumers.

The finding was made in a Statement of Objections, the latest in a long process of EU actions against Microsoft. Back in 2004, the EC found Microsoft violated antitrust principles by tying Windows Media Player to Windows, a finding upheld by the Court of First Instance in 2007.

Microsoft can now respond to the findings and request an oral hearing before a final determination is made.

Norway’s Opera Software initiated the IE complaint and president Jon von Tetzchner hailed the news, according to ComputerWorld:

This is extremely important. It’s important that people have a choice of browsers. It’s important that we don’t have one company dominating the browser market.

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Well, back in the day...
When people had to download a browser to even have one (which was the case with IE as well) they seemed to manage just fine. I'd even offer the opinion that for a lot of computers the end users don't ... (Read the rest)
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Tell Europe to take a hike  a10pilot69 | 01/19/09
"not going to sell or service Windows to Europe "  deaf_e_kate | 01/19/09
Not at all  John L. Ries | 01/19/09
Hey, bring it on!!! It would be really funny to see the results, and MS is  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
We already know the results.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Screw the EU...  Mantei Woodcraft Ltd. | 01/20/09
"let them use Apple or Linux?"  balaknair | 01/20/09
No Surprise there..  lenohere | 02/25/09
Just another bunch of stupidity from the EU  Lerianis | 01/19/09
yes, they made a big mistake  deaf_e_kate | 01/19/09
How would that have promoted choice?  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
But the problem with that...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/20/09
Hopefully, they will be smarter this time around, and not let them create  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Repair past damage?  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
The issue issue is the WINDOWS monopoly and using it to disadvantage  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Donnie... your cluelessness is showing...again..  Wolfie2K3 | 01/20/09
Let's not forget 64-bit...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
I have been running 64bit OpenSuse for years.  hkommedal | 01/21/09
As someone pointed out right here  GuidingLight | 01/19/09
RE: ... someone pointed out right here ...  n0neXn0ne | 01/19/09
and how...  bjs_z | 01/19/09
Linux can download s/w without a browser  deaf_e_kate | 01/19/09
What does that have to do with  John Zern | 01/19/09
In case you did not notice, the poster was claiming that without a browser  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Windows can too  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Let's stumble around in the dark...  reziol | 01/20/09
Wow, did not know how handicapped Windows was!! You mean to tell us that  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Use Windows Explorer to access internet  sean_hando@... | 01/19/09
you still use IE  ldfadssodar | 01/19/09
EU should pay MS for rampant piracy  rrgg | 01/19/09
Uses underlying web components of OS  Patanjali | 01/19/09
How about  balaknair | 01/20/09
EU and IE  mfpezok@... | 01/21/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  Loverock Davidson | 01/19/09
what? no replies?  nizuse | 01/19/09
Something happening here ?  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
Including a browser is no big deal, but...  John L. Ries | 01/19/09
Smoking the good stuff in the EU  Zeddd | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  BR999 | 01/19/09
It's about time  linuser | 01/19/09
Absolutely correct  mmagliaro | 01/19/09
You can easily...  DCMann | 01/19/09
No...that's not what it's about  linuser | 01/19/09
I remember Netscape...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
IE is not free, never has been.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 02/25/09
I think your confused  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
I believe he's talking about the browser  linuser | 01/19/09
Let me explain  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
You sound like a european judge.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Nah Judge Judy  Alan Smithie | 01/21/09
Well said  rkoman@... | 01/19/09
Hmmm....  DCMann | 01/19/09
Yes...but it can be uninstalled  linuser | 01/19/09
Until the next update runs.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Let me buy you a drink  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
NONE OF THIS IS A VIOLATION OF ANTITRUST  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Tell it to Netscape  reziol | 01/20/09
The EC's argument is utterly stupid  P. Douglas | 01/19/09
It's political, not about arguments  nizuse | 01/19/09
It's just a sign of what they're really doing.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Socialism EC full of it  LBiege | 01/19/09
That's a false analogy  rkoman@... | 01/19/09
So you are saying ...  LBiege | 01/19/09
No, the analogy is if BMW dominated the market, and the forced you to buy  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
So give me a straight answer.  LBiege | 01/19/09
There is a big difference. A car must have an engine, and is completely  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Still spinning  LBiege | 01/19/09
I think you are the one spinning. A motor is part of a car, but a browser  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
I'm asking simply Yes or No  LBiege | 01/19/09
BMW being forced to leave out the engine, would be like MS being asked to  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
The straight answer.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
You know...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
better analogy  Anonymous Benefactor | 01/19/09
Well, if a single auto manufacturer had 90% of the market, it sure would  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
If the EU designed a car it would be Trabant.  osreinstall | 01/19/09
Most of those are manufactured here.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
But the EU has fined VW in a similar regard.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
What a pity...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
BMW doesn't have a monopoly  kedens | 01/19/09
Last weeks news  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
MSFT responds by pulling EU critical updates  JeRDLe | 01/19/09
IE bundle does violate consumer choice, always has  educateme@... | 01/19/09
The only way it violates choice...  DCMann | 01/19/09
How's it stop consumer choice?  John Zern | 01/19/09
Wow that is so not what happened  NoThomas | 01/19/09
I have plenty of choice.  osreinstall | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  ian_rw | 01/19/09
No Issue  VietOne | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  giles.r.demourot@... | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  g4george | 01/19/09
Innovation and Excellence  chingnam | 01/19/09
Would a closer analogy be...  DCMann | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  serranoabq | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  nocroman@... | 01/19/09
There are lots of solutions  linuser | 01/19/09
??  NoThomas | 01/19/09
sorry up above was meant for Linuser  NoThomas | 01/19/09
I just don't get it  JimITGuy | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  null | 01/19/09
EU is picking on the big guy  apiercy@... | 01/19/09
Good and Bad  NintendoMad | 01/19/09
Its all about Laws  NoThomas | 01/19/09
IF anything..  Honestmungo | 01/19/09
Just use Linux  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  zdnetboy | 01/19/09
Well...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
We can complain all we want, but the reality is that we benefit  weepule | 01/19/09
Competitive advantage  linuser | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  ASM528 | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  jason09 | 01/19/09
Netscape myths  ForumsReader | 01/19/09
What about the DOJ case?  linuser | 01/19/09
So, on that revisionism thing...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  salblomo | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  john.dearden@... | 01/19/09
Market Share?  Hubbity Bubba | 01/19/09
Agreed. Just highlights that it is an anti-MS witch-hunt  Patanjali | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  herenvardo | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  Custard_over_2x_Pie | 01/19/09
Hopefully in time for Windows 7  linuser | 01/20/09
So then Apple violates anit-trust laws...  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
uninstall IE ??  martin23 | 01/20/09
Fair point...  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
Maybe it's because...  John L. Ries | 01/20/09
still doesnt make sense...  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
Well, back in the day...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  email938 | 01/20/09
The fact that IE is there causes problems  linuser | 01/20/09
And???  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
Ima Mutfn Lead Farmer!  focusedwolf@... | 01/20/09
No Crazy Super Linux Console is a microsoft feature  focusedwolf@... | 01/20/09
You Just Rubbed On The Truth.  focusedwolf@... | 01/20/09
The "only" way????  {DvT}Hex | 01/20/09
Something for the EU to consider  linuser | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  ceh4702 | 01/20/09
What about OS X and Safari??  jscott418 | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  thammr | 01/20/09
But you could "replace" the browser  linuser | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  cjohnson@... | 01/20/09
Require PC vendors to limit browser share  linuser | 01/20/09
This is a cooperative money grab...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/20/09
You got it!!  Hubbity Bubba | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  pv111 | 01/21/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  slhpss | 01/21/09
there is no "Browser Market"  Hubbity Bubba | 01/21/09
What IS an operating system?  Hubbity Bubba | 01/21/09
This is what Microsoft has intentionally tried to blurr  linuser | 01/22/09
Windows WITHOUT applications  linuser | 01/22/09
Paint.NET  Hubbity Bubba | 01/22/09
Sigh. All those years wasted by bad terminology  wolf_z | 02/25/09
The EU has it right. Microsoft is a predatory monopoly.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 02/25/09

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