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November 29th, 2008

Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000

Posted by Richard Koman @ November 29, 2008 @ 7:44 AM

Categories: Courts

Tags: Verdict, Meiers, Internet, Litigation, Business Operations, Richard Koman

The saga of the MySpace suicide case is not yet over. Tina Meier, the mother of Megan Meier, a 13-year-old who hanged herself in response to cruel messages sent as part of a hoax, will press for the maximum charges against Lori Drew, 49, who was convicted by a jury of three misdemeanor counts of computer fraud, according to AP.

If the jury judge throws the book at Drew, she faces three years in prison and a $300,000 fine.

But Drew’s attorney has said he will ask the judge to overturn the verdict. That’s an option used only for verdicts a judge finds to be devoid of “legally sufficient evidentiary basis for a reasonable jury” to find as they did. So I think the odds of this are pretty bad, especially considering the jury knocked the charges down from felonies.

So was this a good decision? I understand the concerns of the tech industry who worry about a great expansion of the use of the fraud act. For instance, the New York Times raised the idea that we will look back on this case as the inflection point at which the Internet changed from free and anonymous to secure and safe.

The article quotes Andrew M. Grossman of the right-center Heritage Foundation:

If this verdict stands, it means that every site on the Internet gets to define the criminal law. That’s a radical change. What used to be small-stakes contracts become high-stakes criminal prohibitions.

Well, Mr. Grossman is senior legal policy analyst for the Foundation, so he knows full well that by itself the verdict means nothing to anyone but Lori Drew. Only if the verdict is appealed and a federal appeals court (Eighth Ninth Circuit, in this case), upholds it does the verdict have any application outside of the Western District of Missouri Central District of California.

With Drew now facing three years in prison, would she rack up the lawyer bills to appeal? Considering that she responded to Megan’s slight of her daughter by a dogged determination to toy with her emotions and humiliate her (according to the testimony of Ashley Griggs, Drew’s employee) one imagines that she would not take her lumps, especially if they were big enough.

Thus, I think Meiers makes a mistake in pressing for the maximum sentence. She would be better served by encouraging the prosecutor to push for a post-conviction agreement for a lesser sentence in exchange for waiver of the right to appeal. Meiers has the satisfaction of a conviction. If this stops now, Megan’s parents get on with their lives. If it goes to appeal — and I certainly would appeal in Drew’s position — the final outcome is uncertain, but what is certain is that the Meiers will spend years reliving the tragic death of their daughter.

As to the ultimate question of whether of a seachange from anonymity to security is afoot, I hope to mull that over in a future post.

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"Pitiful, tomcat. Very pitiful"
I don?t want to change your mind I only want to fill the air between your ears.
I don?t think you understand the seriousness of this matter, Lori has been found guilty of a crime. A crime which sev... (Read the rest)
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Sentence Should Be Served  OldGaDawg | 11/29/08
OK  frgough | 11/29/08
What planet do you live on?  Bozzer | 11/29/08
Is everyone really serious here?  s0v3r1gn | 11/29/08
BS and you know it!  Lupercus | 11/30/08
BS and you know it !  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
Aw C'mon.  Lupercus | 12/01/08
BS and you know it!  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
Intent makes a world of difference  Bozzer | 11/30/08
I think you hit the nail on the head  tullman | 11/30/08
DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN?  wordznpics | 12/01/08
this is not an Internet issue  MikeJ2332 | 12/01/08
re: this is not an Internet issue  none none | 12/01/08
yes we're serious  cerisinc | 11/30/08
Serious!  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
I agree and..  cerisinc | 11/30/08
Planets of Idiots  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
i agree, but  cerisinc | 11/30/08
I agree and..  cerisinc | 11/30/08
Sentence Should Be served NOT"  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
Megan  motomom711 | 12/02/08
Megan  tomcat26 | 12/02/08
Drew  Midnight04 | 12/02/08
JAIL  pickledad | 11/29/08
Exactly  Rsaint | 11/30/08
Exactly? No Way!  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
YOUR STANCE IS OBVIOUS  YourFEEDBACKnotNECESSARY | 11/30/08
Stance? I Think NOT!  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
Good Point  cerisinc | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  pickledad | 11/29/08
Depends  Midnight04 | 12/02/08
bad precedent  MikeJ2332 | 11/29/08
agree with "bad precedent"  saberman | 11/29/08
re: agree with "bad precedent"  none none | 11/29/08
Agree with "bad precedent"  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
Why should the Internet be lawless?  Bozzer | 11/29/08
re: Why should the Internet be lawless?  none none | 11/29/08
Get off the computer, you are not equipped for it.  tullman | 11/30/08
Why Should the Internet be Lawless?  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
Your good points get lost in all the other nonsense  fido5150 | 11/29/08
bad parenting  MikeJ2332 | 11/29/08
Just because your life . . .  JLHenry | 11/29/08
get the facts  MikeJ2332 | 11/29/08
You're the one . . .  JLHenry | 11/29/08
Overblown protectionism.  tullman | 11/30/08
get the facts  MikeJ2332 | 11/30/08
re: get the facts  none none | 11/29/08
nanny state  MikeJ2332 | 11/30/08
Congratulations.  Bozzer | 11/30/08
get the facts  MikeJ2332 | 11/30/08
Anonymity is more important than justice?  Christophr2 | 11/29/08
lynch mob mentality  MikeJ2332 | 11/29/08
Justice  Christophr2 | 11/29/08
Feelings...  bob69696969696 | 11/29/08
Reminder: She did break the law.  Bozzer | 11/29/08
re: Reminder: She did break the law.  none none | 11/29/08
No,the reason this . . .  JLHenry | 11/29/08
Re: No,the reason this . . .  none none | 11/29/08
If intent . . .  JLHenry | 11/29/08
Sometimes the law is an ass.  Bozzer | 11/30/08
re: Sometimes the law is an ass.  none none | 11/30/08
re: If intent . . .  none none | 11/30/08
you're wrong  fido5150 | 11/29/08
You're Wrong  tomcat26 | 12/02/08
teenage suicide  MikeJ2332 | 11/29/08
Don't the do the crime if you can't do the time.  Bozzer | 11/29/08
Sane voice in a sea of people wishing to stay anonymous  santipants | 11/29/08
IRL . . .  JLHenry | 11/29/08
And the fact that it killed a little girl  AzuMao | 11/30/08
BEWARE of Government power!  freedom wage | 11/29/08
Lets take your argument to its logical conclusion.  Bozzer | 11/30/08
You are spot on!  Lupercus | 12/01/08
"You're Spot On"  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
If You Can't Stand the Heat , Get out of the Kitchen  tomcat26 | 12/03/08
Your real name  gogalthorp | 11/29/08
100% right  theo_durcan | 11/29/08
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW  bob69696969696 | 11/29/08
Interesting.  Bozzer | 11/29/08
Therein lies the problem  fido5150 | 11/29/08
bob69696969696  Dragonfaire | 11/29/08
bob69696969696 you are as souless as Drew.  Dragonfaire | 11/29/08
stupid liberals?  MikeJ2332 | 11/29/08
And.  Bozzer | 11/29/08
I'm saying that protecting their kids...  theo_durcan | 11/30/08
Bonehead are Us for You To  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
re: Anonymity is more important than justice?  none none | 11/29/08
I don't know where . . .  JLHenry | 11/29/08
100% agree  santipants | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  YMMV | 11/29/08
It's not manslaughter!  AzuMao | 11/30/08
Intent is relevant  YMMV | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  saberman | 11/29/08
Max penalty is appropriate  Gaias Child | 11/29/08
I don't  wackoae | 11/29/08
re:I don't  gogalthorp | 11/29/08
Drew did more than brake the TOS....  wackoae | 11/29/08
wrong message, edited -NT  theo_durcan | 11/29/08
3 years isn't enough  dslovejoy | 11/29/08
Justice has already lost.  shanedr | 11/29/08
No  frgough | 11/29/08
re: No  none none | 11/29/08
Sure buddy! Blame the victim.  Lupercus | 11/30/08
The Victim is the one to Blame!  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
I hate to say it, but I agree.  TrackStar1682 | 12/01/08
parental responsibility  MikeJ2332 | 12/01/08
Premature conclusion  JustDoIt | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  sandwalker | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  FrodP | 11/29/08
Mom wants Drew to serve the max-three years and $300,000  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  27HYLAND27 | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  mullary1 | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  DMasut | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  DMasut | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  dragonfly777 | 11/29/08
I think Simon on American Idol should be IN JAIL!  OMGbklsjdkfoj | 11/29/08
LOL - Why should anyone be upset? Whales die everyday. It happens.  Old Dirty /B/tard | 11/30/08
Mom has someone to blame for poor parenting.  bob69696969696 | 11/29/08
Really?  Bozzer | 11/29/08
Give me a break  fido5150 | 11/29/08
He's just a troll  JustDoIt | 11/29/08
Knucklehead, Depression is Genetic.  osreinstall | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  compuman@... | 11/29/08
In the UK, it would be classed as harrasment.  Bozzer | 11/29/08
England?  bob69696969696 | 11/29/08
Interesting response.  Bozzer | 11/29/08
Why bother?  JustDoIt | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  sks1960 | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  ewads | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  ewads | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  smonk@... | 11/29/08
Justice isn't vengence or retribution  JustDoIt | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  EricMS007 | 11/29/08
So you are saying your child is dead, and you are going to do nothing?  JustDoIt | 11/29/08
Re:So you are saying your child is dead, and you are going to do nothing?  Garlandjr | 11/29/08
I am on the victim side  JustDoIt | 11/29/08
Thank Gawd You're not paid to Think!  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
You're living in a Fantasy World  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
Free Lori Drew!  EricMS007 | 11/29/08
re: Free Lori Drew!  none none | 11/29/08
Do you have children?  santipants | 11/29/08
Why not read your own comments?  Christophr2 | 11/29/08
re: Why not read your own comments?  none none | 11/29/08
Why are you blaming others.  Bozzer | 11/30/08
re: Why are you blaming others.  none none | 11/30/08
Decency  GalenAlexis | 11/30/08
re: Decency  none none | 11/30/08
Yeah right.  Bozzer | 11/29/08
Is there an age limit to sign-up to ZDNet?  JustDoIt | 11/29/08
Your comment was totally uncalled for  AzuMao | 11/30/08
Pedophile?  santipants | 11/29/08
Exactly.  Lupercus | 11/30/08
But Drew is a female  AzuMao | 11/30/08
Drew should serve "Hard Time" - no country club!  WillyWildBoyabdc | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  skix2dad | 11/29/08
Very Good Anology  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  fido5150 | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  Mistafied | 11/29/08
To all the idiots that are defending Lori & blaming Tina, read this.  Garlandjr | 11/29/08
This is to the Idiot that wrote that windy tale  tomcat26 | 11/30/08
GUILTY  YourFEEDBACKnotNECESSARY | 11/30/08
Guilty  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  puppet69 | 11/29/08
Blaming the Victim & On/Offline Crime  Christophr2 | 11/29/08
re: Blaming the Victim & On/Offline Crime  none none | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  somewhereinCA | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  gypsyearthspirit | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  Dragonfaire | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  cinnamonspice | 11/29/08
FREEDOM at the Price of Innocence  freedom wage | 11/29/08
You are out of your mind  hmpierson | 11/29/08
You are out of your mind  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
Hatred and Revenge...  Gordon Mcghie | 11/29/08
Freedom is good  AzuMao | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  freedom wage | 11/29/08
Since you don't want . . .  JLHenry | 11/29/08
hang her high  cod4you | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  cod4you | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  cod4you | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  JimCok | 11/29/08
Parenting  s0v3r1gn | 11/29/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  odedy | 11/30/08
To all who think it's morally ok to do what Drew did and then instead...  Mandarr | 11/30/08
I'm so Hurt  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  Protect our Children | 11/30/08
Not to put too fine a point to it, but  Lupercus | 11/30/08
Cyber Lover  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  madisonhack | 11/30/08
Msg to Lori Drew  Ghost of Megan Meier | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  MoeFugger | 11/30/08
How Much will Mom pay for neglect?  Peacemkr | 11/30/08
Intent is relevant  YMMV | 11/30/08
Re:Intent is relevant  Garlandjr | 11/30/08
Amen  GalenAlexis | 11/30/08
Re:Intent is relevant  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
Larry Drew as opposed to Lori Drew  JustAnAboveAverageJoe | 11/30/08
I have THE ANSWER  getridofmyspace | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  quplx | 11/30/08
Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  cerisinc | 11/30/08
9th Circuit - Ninth Circuit  BorisKarloff | 11/30/08
Why weren't child predator laws involved here?  arbulus | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  Meltd0wn | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  JohnGalt2 | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  san francisco | 11/30/08
Justified  GalenAlexis | 11/30/08
Preditory Activities. Recognize this for what it is.  sdstreet@... | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  jackmarcus2000 | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  EricMS007 | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  EricMS007 | 11/30/08
United States: Highest Documented Incarseration Rate in the entire world.  EricMS007 | 11/30/08
RE: nope  EricMS007 | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  EricMS007 | 11/30/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  qtod123@... | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  wordznpics | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  bloggersvilleusa | 12/01/08
Too little, too late & misdirected  bloggersvilleusa | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  SingleDAD77 | 12/01/08
Okay, Tomcat26 is officially a moron.  Garlandjr | 12/01/08
BOO HOO HOO, HOO HOO  tomcat26 | 12/01/08
Re:BOO HOO HOO, HOO HOO  Garlandjr | 12/02/08
RE: BOO HOO HOO, HOO HOO  tomcat26 | 12/02/08
You know what, Tomcat26, you're pathetic.  Garlandjr | 12/03/08
We" Who's We" you have a Mouse in your Pocket?  tomcat26 | 12/03/08
Re:We" Who's We" you have a Mouse in your Pocket?  Garlandjr | 12/03/08
what NEEDS to be understood  Peacemkr | 12/04/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  trm1945 | 12/01/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  tomcat26 | 12/04/08
You're hopeless.  Garlandjr | 12/04/08
You're hopeless, Part 2.  Garlandjr | 12/04/08
He's useless and hopeless.  JustDoIt | 12/04/08
Re:He's useless and hopeless.  Garlandjr | 12/04/08
Re:He's useless and hopeless.  tomcat26 | 12/04/08
He's useless and hopeless.  tomcat26 | 12/04/08
You're hopeless, Part 2.  tomcat26 | 12/04/08
Please give information relevant to the discussion  Narcissist71 | 12/06/08
You're hopeless.  tomcat26 | 12/04/08
RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  JustDoIt | 12/04/08
Re:RE: Mom wants Drew to serve the max - three years and $300,000  Peacemkr | 12/05/08
Elegantly said!  tomcat26 | 12/05/08
Tomcat 26, go away.  Garlandjr | 12/05/08
I love YOU" ........NOT"  tomcat26 | 12/05/08
Emotion has no basis in a court of law  Peacemkr | 12/06/08
You Welcome"  tomcat26 | 12/06/08
Re:I love YOU" ........NOT"  Garlandjr | 12/06/08
Now you're using Reasoning"  tomcat26 | 12/06/08
No Arguement there  Peacemkr | 12/06/08
Re: No Argument There  Garlandjr | 12/06/08
I have an argument with your assement  tomcat26 | 12/07/08
Re: I have an argument with your assement  Garlandjr | 12/07/08
Here we go!  tomcat26 | 12/07/08
Re:Here we go!  Garlandjr | 12/08/08
Dimwit" Oh my Gawd"  tomcat26 | 12/08/08
Re: Dimwit" Oh my Gawd"  Garlandjr | 12/08/08
Slap your head again, First one didnt help"  tomcat26 | 12/08/08
Pitiful, Tomcat. Very pitiful.  Garlandjr | 12/09/08
"Pitiful, tomcat. Very pitiful"  tomcat26 | 12/09/08
Re:"Pitiful, tomcat. Very pitiful"  Garlandjr | 12/09/08
"Pitiful, tomcat. Very pitiful"  tomcat26 | 12/09/08

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