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November 24th, 2008

Did suicide viewers commit a crime?

Posted by Richard Koman @ November 24, 2008 @ 8:49 AM

Categories: Law enforcement, Web

Tags: Suicide, Florida, Channel Management, Marketing, Richard Koman

The fact that dozens of people watched Abraham Biggs, Jr., kill himself on a webcam – none of whom alerted authorities until it was too late and many of whom goaded him on – is not only an outrage, it may be a crime. Police in Pembroke Pines, Fla., are investigating culpability of the viewers and of justin.tv, where the suicide was streamed, The Guardian says.

An investigator with the Broward County medical examiner’s office, which is dealing with the case, confirmed that some web users had encouraged the teenager to harm himself, while others had tried to talk him out of ending his life. The messageboard where he left the original note has now been deleted, but not before other viewers had noted some of the harsher reponses.

“You want to kill yourself?” said one internet user reacting to the teenager’s message. “Do it, do the world a favour and stop wasting our time with your mindless self-pity.”

It’s not clear to most observers whether watching or goading or broadcasting the suicide is a chargable offense.

Florida has a law against assisting suicide, Fla. Stat. 782.08:

782.08 ASSISTING SELF-MURDER.–Every person deliberately assisting
another in the commission of self-murder shall be guilty of
manslaughter, a felony of the second degree

But what is “assisting”? Is goading assisting? It doesn’t seem likely to me. In a traditional murder, it would be no crime to watch – or even encourage — one person to murder another, unless the encouragement was part of a conspiracy or duress.

On the other hand, in New York advising someone to kill themselves is manslaughter, InfoWeek reports. I haven’t found a law like that in Florida, but it seems there would have to be such a law in order to prosecute.

Last year a British man killed himself on webcam, after being urged to “get on with it” by viewers. The Crown Prosecution Service decided that none of the comments amounted to a criminal offense, the Guardian reported.

A MySpace memorial page is here.

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20/20 hindsight??
20/20 hindsight is NOT necessary... tell me what ANYONE would have lost by DOING THE RIGHT THING... and not only GIVING him the attention he sought... but making sure that 12 hours DID NOT ELAPSE betw... (Read the rest)
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A crime? Probably not...  paferg | 11/24/08
Defends on how you define "crime"  John L. Ries | 11/24/08
Crime  Midnight04 | 11/24/08
few issues  Been_Done_Before | 11/24/08
Not Acceptable  kwayu | 11/24/08
"Are Americans..."  John L. Ries | 11/25/08
Obviously sick?  AskQuestions | 11/26/08
20/20 hindsight??  Phoenixrising914 | 11/27/08
Not so sure about that  laura.b | 11/25/08
RE: Did suicide viewers commit a crime?  Telix | 11/24/08
RE: Did suicide viewers commit a crime?  jpgeorgia | 11/24/08
RE: Did suicide viewers commit a crime?  madrucke@... | 11/24/08
RE: Did suicide viewers commit a crime?  twaynesdomain | 11/24/08
RE: Did suicide viewers commit a crime?  janie_bee | 11/24/08
RE: Did suicide viewers commit a crime?  Midnight04 | 11/24/08
RE: Did suicide viewers commit a crime?  unellen | 11/25/08
It seems to me  robinreneeo | 11/25/08
Take out the computers to get your answer.  bernalillo | 11/26/08

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