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September 8th, 2008

LHC and Faith-Based Science

Posted by Richard Koman @ September 8, 2008 @ 11:01 PM

Categories: Science

Tags: Science, LHC, Research & Development, Homeland Security, Business Operations, Government, Richard Koman

Public reaction to the Large Hadron Collider is so ignorant and brain-dead we need a theory to explain what’s going on. I asked Charles King at Pund-IT for a theory. He offered this:

I believe that much of the public reaction to the LHC is grounded in a kind of ignorance that might be called “Faith-Based Science” or F-BS for short. The popularity of that particular discipline knows no social, political or economic bounds.

But I also think that the folks promoting the LHC could do a better job of communicating the project’s goals and aims. Sub-atomic physics isn’t the easiest subject to discuss (let alone understand) but in order for people for appreciate the importance of science they first need to understand how it will potentially improve their lives.

This doesn’t apply just to the LHC but to virtually every form of technology.

All around us we see people reacting to science in terms of what they want to believe, or what their leaders tell them to believe. Consider the anti-global warming crowd. The anti-Wi-Fi crowd. Hell, the anti-moon landing crowd. And yes, this is tied to fundamentalism. I agree with Mitch Ratcliffe:

You may have heard of Sarah Palin and her lack of experience with virtually anything having to do with national politics (except her talent in winning pork projects) and foreign relations. But she also doesn’t believe in evolution, which means that, in principle, this discovery cannot fit into her world view unless she actually thinks God designed the roseola virus into us rather than this being the product of a process of natural selection.

We don’t need a vice president or, should Senator McCain be elected and die in office, a president who disavows science. She insists Creationism be taught alongside evolution and opposes many forms of research based on her Biblical interpretations. The impact of a Palin presidency — or her influence within the administration as vice president — on U.S. research and development policy would be disastrous.

I checked in with Mitch about the whole LHC thing and he offered me this:

I don’t think it is anti-science because of the terrorism angle, like the anthrax letters, rather it is an anxiety about progress, especially big steps forward. Think about the claims that the moon landings must have been faked. People don’t like the tearing away of mystery in their lives, because they are comfortable with those mysteries. Even if the answers the LHC make the world infinitely more interesting because we have a grasp of the beginnings of time and space, it looks to many people like we are slowly being transformed into mechanical beings who live in a mechanical universe by scientific discovery. Takes the romance away, too.

Unless you embrace changing explanations for the world, in which case this is a remarkable time. More scientific education, more math and more discussion of myth in non-science classes, whether social studies, literature or sociology, would help people embrace the importance of what’s going on today.

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Opposition to LHC  Ocker3 | 09/08/08
Probability  MooseBoys | 09/09/08
Not that ignorant ...  PrimeCustomerPrim | 09/09/08
maybe not ignorant, but certainly uninformed  alaire | 09/09/08
But the scientists have to talk to us too  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
LHC rap  alaire | 09/10/08
Who is this 'you' that you speak of?  HogsInBudapest | 09/09/08
False arguements  donj81 | 09/14/08
"fools"  midenginedrift | 09/15/08
"fools"  midenginedrift | 09/15/08
Science/Christianity/Politics  wrcflier@... | 09/15/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  eolson22 | 09/09/08
Faith Based Science  duncanofbegany | 09/09/08
I concur  jahcriado | 09/09/08
Eugenics  lambert.heenan@... | 09/10/08
Faith Based Science  lambert.heenan@... | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  kakman1@... | 09/09/08
with you  pkkm | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  kakman1@... | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  testcfg | 09/09/08
about whale  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
Black Holes  duncanofbegany | 09/09/08
Christianity is not Anti-Science  Khomar | 09/09/08
Good Post!  iTeaBoy | 09/09/08
Risks  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
Superb post!  dan.nutley@... | 09/09/08
Nicely put  HogsInBudapest | 09/09/08
Probably deliberate misguiding  pkkm | 09/09/08
Actually, I'd be happy with just re-emphasizing  frgough | 09/09/08
Understanding God's mind  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
Um...no!! You're not getting away with that one!!  techboy_z | 09/09/08
OK, I am a real scientist . . .  caburlingame | 09/16/08
Is String Theory Testable?  cdawson2000 | 09/11/08
Let the facts stand on their own  erivera@... | 09/09/08
Heartily agree  duncanofbegany | 09/09/08
The trouble with intelligent design  Benji80 | 09/09/08
Intelligent design  lfrankow@... | 09/09/08
Re: Intelligent design  pkkm | 09/09/08
Wel that is very easy...  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/09/08
Not true at all  frgough | 09/09/08
read Dover vs kitzmiller  pkkm | 09/09/08
unfortunate  pkkm | 09/09/08
Could be a good fellow and please  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/09/08
Apologies  erivera@... | 09/09/08
You're welcome.  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  latenight18 | 09/09/08
thanks for that  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  ehealthshop | 09/09/08
Science is not about 'belief'  Benji80 | 09/09/08
Nothing new in Xianity  pkkm | 09/09/08
Correct - Christianity came from Judaism  iTeaBoy | 09/09/08
Re: Correct - Christianity came from Judaism  pkkm | 09/09/08
Cautionary note  cmentmixer | 09/09/08
Re: Cautionay note  pkkm | 09/09/08
"No gods before Me"  cmentmixer | 09/09/08
Re: No Gods before me  pkkm | 09/09/08
Sanatana Dharma  cmentmixer | 09/09/08
Re: Sanatana Dharma  pkkm | 09/09/08
Hell hath no fury  cmentmixer | 09/09/08
True science  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
Doubting Apollo and doubting Darwin are Different  dan.nutley@... | 09/09/08
Zing?  HogsInBudapest | 09/09/08
"Are you a fundamentalist Darwinist?"  alan_4195 | 09/09/08
Agreed.  HogsInBudapest | 09/09/08
Re: Agreed  pkkm | 09/09/08
Our default magical worldview v our instinct for science  dpnewkirk | 09/09/08
Re: Are you a fundamentalist Darwinist  pkkm | 09/09/08
Worth a look:  HogsInBudapest | 09/10/08
Physicist?  pkkm | 09/09/08
post hoc fallacy  frgough | 09/09/08
so is Big Bang theory  pkkm | 09/09/08
Excellent post  iPlant | 09/09/08
Mr. Koman and friends are obvious bigots.  Komanisanidiot | 09/09/08
in the court  pkkm | 09/09/08
Who are the real fundamentalists?  oldduck | 09/09/08
modern newton  pkkm | 09/09/08
They would have gotten the knowledge  John L. Ries | 09/09/08
Blame Dan Brown  humble_perfesser | 09/09/08
Blame Mary Shelley  John L. Ries | 09/09/08
Creation + Evolution?  iTeaBoy | 09/09/08
faith vs science, actually  barence773 | 09/09/08
Faith is tested everyday my friend  iTeaBoy | 09/09/08
Re: Faith is tested everyday my friend  pkkm | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  Mungomunro | 09/09/08
You're funny  mijori | 09/09/08
global warming  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
Is Evolution Science?  MikeInVa | 09/09/08
Scientific ignorance  pkkm | 09/09/08
wiki is cool  pkkm | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  robbiemckay@... | 09/09/08
Yawn  frgough | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  carlino | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  pkkm | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  Attrezzo Pox | 09/09/08
LHC DOES have potential to end the world  cphil19 | 09/09/08
Ohhhh, a doctor  HogsInBudapest | 09/09/08
Truth  cphil19 | 09/09/08
Sorry. I just...  HogsInBudapest | 09/10/08
Well then...  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/09/08
Palin photo is a fake  tonyr123 | 09/09/08
Re: Palin photo is a fake  Attrezzo Pox | 09/09/08
Re: Palin photo is a fake  tonyr123 | 09/09/08
Sarcasm... ah yes... well in that case there is this  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/09/08
Really.  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
Works both ways  John L. Ries | 09/09/08
Industry  rkoman@... | 09/09/08
Agreed  John L. Ries | 09/09/08
E=mc(2)  cdawson2000 | 09/11/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  cphil19 | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  dcalto | 09/09/08
Science vs. Religion  P. Douglas | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  pkkm | 09/09/08
Faith and reason: not incompatible!!  techboy_z | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  mr.richardthomas@... | 09/09/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  Noneofoyourbusiness | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  Noneofoyourbusiness | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  Noneofoyourbusiness | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  Noneofoyourbusiness | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  Noneofoyourbusiness | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  XFunc_CaRteR | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  XFunc_CaRteR | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  XFunc_CaRteR | 09/10/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  XFunc_CaRteR | 09/10/08
Indoctrination of Youth with Faith-Based Science  denisenorris@... | 09/10/08
Another possibility of the existence of the universe as we know(?) it  nextbigthing | 09/11/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  cdawson2000 | 09/11/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  gfiandy | 09/15/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  niffirg | 09/18/08
RE: LHC and Faith-Based Science  niffirg | 09/18/08

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