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September 2nd, 2008

Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward

Posted by Richard Koman @ September 2, 2008 @ 7:35 PM

Categories: Courts, International, Science

Tags: Black Hole, CERN, European Court, Richard Koman

The Large Hadron Collider — designed to replicate conditions in the universe immediately after the Big Bang and due to be switched on in 10 days — is being challenged by a last-minute lawsuit at the European Court for Human Rights.

Opponents of the Collider are afraid its ability to smash atoms at such high speeds that it will generate temperatures of one trillion degrees centigrade will create a mini-black hole that could “tear the earth apart,” reports the Telegraph.

Opponents of the project had hoped to obtain an injunction from the European Court of Human Rights that would block the collider from being turned on at all, but the court rejected the application on Friday morning. However, the court will rule on allegations that the experiment violates the right to life under the European Convention of Human Rights.

Here’s the case against the collider by Professor Otto Rössler, a German chemist at the Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen:

CERN itself has admitted that mini black holes could be created when the particles collide, but they don’t consider this a risk.

My own calculations have shown that it is quite plausible that these little black holes survive and will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside. I have been calling for CERN to hold a safety conference to prove my conclusions wrong but they have not been willing.

We submitted this application to the European Court of Human Rights as we do not believe the scientists at CERN are taking all the precautions they should be in order to protect human life.”

CERN conducted a safety review and concluded there is “little chance” the collider could create black holes that could endanger the earth.

Meanwhile, environmentalists in Hawaii have filed suit in federal court in the U.S., seeking to delay the switch-flip. The case was to be heard Tuesday.

CERN’s defense, from spokesman James Gillies:

The Large Hadron Collider will not be producing anything that does not already happen routinely in nature due to cosmic rays. If they were dangerous we would know about it already. We are now concentrating on firing the first beams around the collider and then on fine tuning it until we can get collisions, when the science will start.

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...with a quick bout of leprosy heheh...

Classy, my friend. I couldnt be any more diametrically opposed but I must concede in the face of such an eloquent and entertaining argument.

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Here's what's going to happen:  olePigeon | 09/02/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  cphil19 | 09/02/08
"Countless distinguised scientists"?  seanferd | 09/03/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  ladies-man-123 | 09/02/08
you guys serious?  rkoman@... | 09/02/08
Serious?  cphil19 | 09/02/08
You do undersand...  wolf_z | 09/03/08
Serious fear  rkoman@... | 09/03/08
Ever notice that the "leading experts" ...  mwagner@... | 09/03/08
LOL  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/03/08
Best part about the whole thing  seanferd | 09/03/08
this is unbelievable  hanna-maria | 09/07/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  ladies-man-123 | 09/02/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  jeyost@... | 09/02/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  jim.rice.us | 09/09/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  JTankers | 09/02/08
Rossler is a biochemist, not a physicist ...  mwagner@... | 09/03/08
Bingo!  seanferd | 09/03/08
serious questions  nominalis | 09/03/08
maybe they should seek guidance from Vatican  Linux Geek | 09/03/08
okay serious...  mstafford718 | 09/03/08
Weather  rkoman@... | 09/03/08
Point taken...  mstafford718 | 09/03/08
Oh dear gods...  olePigeon | 09/03/08
keep banging your head...  mstafford718 | 09/04/08
You said ...  mwagner@... | 09/03/08
Just because the complexities of weather ...  mwagner@... | 09/03/08
Quantum ElectroDynamics is the most successful theory ever  seanferd | 09/03/08
Answers  seanferd | 09/03/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  kzot | 09/03/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  hillwalker@... | 09/03/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  miss-sciency | 09/03/08
what kind of scientis are you?  Linux Geek | 09/03/08
Probably UFOlogy and Parapsychology. [nt]  olePigeon | 09/03/08
I'm thinking...  michaelstn@... | 09/09/08
it's already happened  simon@... | 09/03/08
Hmmm ...  mwagner@... | 09/03/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  wadrix | 09/03/08
Interesting indeed ...  mwagner@... | 09/03/08
Hmmm  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/03/08
Why?  seanferd | 09/03/08
Dude - Chill  jim.rice.us | 09/09/08
More Proof....  michaelstn@... | 09/09/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  mwagner@... | 09/03/08
Quantum tunnelling and the need for clear language.  JJMach | 09/03/08
Very, very good.  seanferd | 09/03/08
Credentials  rkoman@... | 09/03/08
LOL. "I am Spartacus!"  seanferd | 09/03/08
The literature  rkoman@... | 09/03/08
Logic?  miles@... | 09/03/08
Don't apply?  seanferd | 09/03/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  neverhome | 09/03/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  sable x | 09/04/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  Arne111 | 09/04/08
RE: interesting stuff  harveyjake | 09/04/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  harveyjake | 09/04/08
RE: Hadron Collider  S.HAWKIN | 09/05/08
Would you really put the earth in danger?  :.Jo | 09/05/08
Poor education  rkoman@... | 09/05/08
Been paranoid lately?  Wdabrock | 09/05/08
We already have these things, this will just be bigger....  blohrer@... | 09/05/08
What I would like to understand is WHY  CurioCT | 09/05/08
To understand  rkoman@... | 09/07/08
yes yes nice copy and paste skills, but you miss the point entirely  CurioCT | 09/07/08
oh you didnt really want to understand?(EOM)  rkoman@... | 09/08/08
no you are still missing the point  CurioCT | 09/08/08
No, you just don't understand science  Paullus99 | 09/08/08
so what I said was right?  CurioCT | 09/08/08
Fantastic  Skullet | 09/06/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  dgerard | 09/06/08
Black hole panic  dan@... | 09/08/08
Bad Argument in favor of the Large Hadron Collider  Grouchy Old Hippie | 09/08/08
Relativistic fail.  aiusepsi | 09/09/08
Too much Star Trek  Original Eggman | 09/08/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  yogi_dave | 09/08/08
In The Words Of Steven Hawkins  jakehodgeonline | 09/09/08
Do Not Fear Yet.  jakehodgeonline | 09/09/08
RE: Bid to stop Large Hadron Collider fails but EU, US suits move forward  eymhere@... | 09/10/08
Evolution??? You heathen!!!  monday90 | 09/10/08
...  HexHammer67 | 09/10/08

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