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May 30th, 2008

Brazil, India, South Africa protest OOXML vote

Posted by Richard Koman @ May 30, 2008 @ 12:47 PM

Categories: International, Microsoft, Standards

Tags: Brazil, Appeal, South Africa, Office Open XML, Iso standards, Process Improvement, Quality, Business Operations, Richard Koman

Brazil, India and South Africa have filed appeals to the ISO/IEC approval of Microsoft’s OOXML. At the Standards Blog, Andy Updegrove outlines some of the issues:

Brazil’s objections fall under two main headings, the second of which was also raised by South Africa. That objection relates to the fact that the reconciliation draft of DIS 29500 that was delivered to ISO on March 29 still has not been released, even to the National Bodies. Despite the fact that this release has been requested by many different parties representing multiple viewpoints, no public or private explanation has thus far been given for the failure to follow rules calling for the releasee of the draft within 30 days of the close of the BRM.

In addition, Brazil criticizes the ballot resolution meeting as “inconclusive,” supporting that conclusion with assertions that the decisions were “completely incompatible with the kind of decisions that should have be taken” and that decisions were taken based on the “need to give answers to journalists.”

Ultimate question: Now that three formal appeals have been filed, is the Joint Technical Committee going to take them seriously?

Whether or not this latest appeal will be rejected out of hand or allowed to become the subject of serious consideration remains to be seen. Presumably some of the examples given above will receive scant attention, given that ISO was represented at the meeting, and participated in the decision making that lay behind the key decisions made at the time. But with each additional appeal that is filed, one would hope that a review of the process will be found to be more urgent, given the evident unhappiness of National Bodies that attended the BRM in good faith, and left unsatisfied not with the result, but what they had witnessed in the course of a long and frustrating week in Geneva.

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And another shame that Microsoft has so many lap-dogs barking their approval of the atrocities.... (Read the rest)
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Ask any lawyer  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/30/08
I've told you people  Linux Geek | 05/30/08
ISO value in trouble  wackoae | 05/30/08
Here:  Qbt | 05/30/08
Come on, the standards process failed here, and and OOXML will never be a  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
The standards process didn't fail here...  Qbt | 05/30/08
It is very rare to have two standards for the exact same thing, from the  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Really? You pretty ignorant with standards then...  transposeIT | 05/30/08
What? This is the SAME standards organization, ratifying two standards for  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
You can't be serious  Pliny the Elder | 05/30/08
Just a minute, ISO passed ODF unanamously, there was no controversy. That  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Two different ways of doing the same thing  Ole Man | 05/31/08
Why move on, OOXML is basically toast.  TripleII | 05/31/08
Why all the dirty tricks from  Pliny the Elder | 05/30/08
There is not excuse for anybody to use dirty tricks to circumvent the  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Cry you a river? You are IN the river.......  Ole Man | 05/31/08
Side Effect.  TripleII | 05/31/08
RE: Brazil, India, South Africa protest OOXML vote  Qbt | 05/30/08
not some ... agenda pushed by some ... minority  javajunkie@... | 05/30/08
OOXML did not level any playing fields. That might have been the case with  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Not OOXML  Qbt | 05/30/08
OOXML is only to create confusion and interoperability problems, nothting  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
I guess you are...  Qbt | 05/30/08
MS may think we are all very stupid, but, they did not have much reason to  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
If you had a clue..  User07734 | 05/31/08
The trouble IS NOT that people don't understand  Ole Man | 05/31/08
Idiot troll  User07734 | 05/31/08
"You people are so transparent"..... So true!  Ole Man | 05/31/08
Nice rant...  Tony Agudo | 05/30/08
And, there might be countries banning OOXML for government use even though  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Then...  Qbt | 05/30/08
ODF does not exclude MS, it is fully implementable by all, proprietary or  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
I get it.  Qbt | 05/30/08
I get what you're saying  Tony Agudo | 05/30/08
Good thing you're not in charge then...  User07734 | 05/31/08
The problem with OOXML...  TripleII | 05/31/08
While you are down the river without a paddle  Ole Man | 05/31/08
This goes to show how bad the OOXML standard is. Normally countries rejoice  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Not really. If you factor in the truth  Pliny the Elder | 05/30/08
So, good interoperability would "force MS out". If MS has the best  DonnieBoy | 05/31/08
Did the Linux zealots even read the article?  transposeIT | 05/30/08
If they were not unhappy with OOXML, they would not be complaining about  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
They aren't allowed.  TripleII | 05/31/08
These countries must have received a lot of "aid" from ODF supporters..  transposeIT | 05/30/08
So, why was there no problem with ODF? Why was ODF unanamous? Why was there  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Why?  Qbt | 05/30/08
Again, this has nothing to do with open source. Open standards and open  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
What part of "open" don't you understand  Pliny the Elder | 05/30/08
Yes, MS was trying in round about, indirect ways to imply that ODF was  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Out of curiousity...  Tony Agudo | 05/30/08
I guess you're new to this topic...  User07734 | 05/31/08
Brazil and India, no. SA, maybe.  TripleII | 05/31/08
It is a real shame that one company has destroyed all respect for ISO...  Basic Logic | 05/30/08
Well, we can hope that they will redo the rules so that one company can not  DonnieBoy | 05/30/08
Amen!  Ole Man | 05/31/08
And I'll protest their high piracy rates.  HypnoToad | 05/31/08

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