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April 23rd, 2008

9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion

Posted by Richard Koman @ April 23, 2008 @ 8:42 AM

Categories: Government technology

Tags: Suspicion, Mobile, Laptop Computer, Notebooks, Hardware, Notebooks & Tablets, Richard Koman

Is your laptop your digital “home”? Um, no, the (”liberal” - that always makes me laugh) Ninth Circuit ruled Monday in US v Arnold. At least not at the border or at the international terminal of a US airport.

Michael Arnold arrived at LAX from the Philippines, where he was pulled aside by customs agents for a random laptop search. They found what they believed to be child pornography. Two weeks later they obtained a warrant and a grand jury charged him with breaking federal kiddie porn laws.

The issues in the case were two: Are customs officials at US airports required to have reasonable suspicion (not probable cause, btw) to search a laptop? If so, did they have it in this case?

The holding: International travelers arriving from overseas are subject to border rules. And those rules are very, very favorable to the government. There is no reasonable suspicion needed for searches of “closed containers,” such as luggage and briefcases (US v Tsai, 282 F.3d 690 [9th Cir. 2002]); purses, wallets or pockets (Henderson v US, 390 F.2d 805[9th Cir. 1979]); and pictures, films and videos (US v 37 Photographs, 402 US 363; 12,200-Ft. Reels of Super 8mm Film, 413 US 123).

Under that standard, it sure seems like laptops are containers. There are some limits, of course. The feds do need reasonable suspicion to search one’s “alimentary canal” for reasons of “human dignity and privacy” (US v Montoyta de Hernandez, 473 US 531). In addition, there may be some property searches that are so destructive that they require particularized suspicion.

So, is a laptop part of your body? Arnold argued that it is like the “human mind” because it stores “ideas, email, internet chats and web-surfing habits.” Or that it’s like a home because you can store everything personal that you would store in your home — presumably snapshots, legal documents, love letters, etc.

But not even a mobile home qualifies as a home under Fourth Amendment jurisprudence (California v Carney, 471 US 386) because mobile homes are mobile and expectation of privacy in a vehicle is pretty darn low. And searching a laptop is not a “particularly offensive” handling of property, considering the Supreme Court decision in US v Flores-Montana, 541 US 149, which held that complete disassembly and reassembly of a car’s gas tank didn’t require reasonable suspicion.

Bottom line: If you’re arriving in the US from a foreign location, customs officials have every right to search your laptop — and they don’t need any reason to search.

All the more reason not to take a laptop with you — just use Google Docs or some other online service and rent a computer when you get there. In any case, lay off the kiddie porn.

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RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion
It is said that the people who will prosper most are those who appear to be following the Party Line while quietly pursuing their own goals.

I personally don't care WHAT the contraband is. The... (Read the rest)
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What about external drives and encryption?  pauliusp | 04/23/08
Ya i would also like an answer to this stuff.  Been_Done_Before | 04/23/08
Hmm  rkoman@... | 04/23/08
They can't make you decrypt them...  vikingnyc@... | 04/24/08
Certainly  rkoman@... | 04/23/08
A Good Question  hforman@... | 04/23/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  Linux User 147560 | 04/23/08
Extension of home or purse?  rkoman@... | 04/23/08
Maybe Justice Scalia will take Kyllo...  Anton Philidor | 04/23/08
Home vs. mobility  rkoman@... | 04/23/08
Re: Home vs. mobility  DDXHome | 04/23/08
At the border  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
Secrets  hforman@... | 04/23/08
Secrets  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
Extension of Home or Purse  dariced@... | 05/09/08
It would seem the 9th Circuit ....  ShadeTree | 04/23/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/23/08
Read the Constitution again...  KaplanMike | 04/23/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/23/08
I laugh myself teary-eyed...  Riphly_z | 04/23/08
What? You're way off  John Zern | 04/23/08
George Carlin Said as much...  Riphly_z | 04/23/08
Well said ... and then...  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
This November will be like every other  starcannon99022@... | 04/28/08
Derived.  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
Your the kind of person...  pcguy777 | 04/23/08
Your the kind of person ....  ShadeTree | 04/24/08
The 9th circuit  deowll | 04/23/08
Each of us are equally up on the law as they are.  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
Totally incorrect.  ShadeTree | 04/24/08
So you consider the Fourth Amendment ridiculous do you?  bmerc | 04/24/08
Not even close to what I said..  ShadeTree | 04/25/08
Wrong! interpreting the constitution is about the intent of the framers -NT  raycote | 07/03/08
Have you actually read any 4th Amendment decisions?  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
The death of the 4th Amendment  dariced@... | 05/09/08
The Constitution  starcannon99022@... | 04/28/08
Re: The Constitution......  middle of nowhere | 07/03/08
No sympathy...  techboy_z | 04/23/08
Porn is not the issue  rkoman@... | 04/23/08
exception  irishpride2275 | 04/23/08
Thank you.  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
Really?  middle of nowhere | 07/03/08
The Border IS the Country  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
Not true.  ShadeTree | 04/24/08
Personal papers,,,  Media-Ted@... | 04/24/08
Or at least encrypt your stuff -- duh!  paul@... | 04/23/08
Don't have pictures of children, period.  terry flores | 04/23/08
Islamic Attitude  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
definition of child porn  irishpride2275 | 04/23/08
Dude you would be suprised.  deowll | 04/23/08
encrypt your stuff - a good reason they'll take it from you  dariced@... | 05/09/08
This is why I read ZDNet  kcredden2 | 04/23/08
Ya, that'd be great  supercharlie | 04/23/08
It won't capture anyone  LucasKorso | 07/04/08
i see nothing wrong with this it's the law if you don't like it lobby  SO.CAL Guy | 04/23/08
People like you scare the heck out of me  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
Idiot, it's not the law. It's unconstitutional.  bmerc | 04/24/08
the court seems to disagree with you i think they know more about the  SO.CAL Guy | 04/25/08
Actually  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
Sorry but it has to be said - YOU ARE AN IGNORANT LITTLE MAN - NT  raycote | 07/03/08
Waves goodbye to privacy  supercharlie | 04/23/08
Random searches  rkoman@... | 04/23/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/23/08
That is right and until you ....  ShadeTree | 04/23/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/23/08
Are you high?  middle of nowhere | 07/03/08
Constitution applies to all persons, not just citizens.  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
Not according to George W. Bush  terry flores | 04/24/08
McCarthyism, anyone? n/t  btljooz | 04/24/08
McCarthyism makes what is taking place now  Ole Man | 04/24/08
So can come and go ...  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 07/04/08
Heres the deal...  supercharlie | 04/23/08
A fine line  John Zern | 04/23/08
Wrong  deowll | 04/23/08
You're so deluded  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
I do not think he is deluded  GuidingLight | 04/24/08
Not under the law  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
UNREASONABLE  irishpride2275 | 04/23/08
RE: Unreasonable  AndyCee | 04/24/08
Doesn't work that way, sorry  bmerc | 04/24/08
a piece of ("TOILET") paper apparently.  Ole Man | 04/24/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  jpratchios@... | 04/23/08
Use Linux to protect your data from snooping  Letophoro | 04/23/08
Assuming they don't know linux....  magcomment | 04/23/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/23/08
Ummm..Yes they probably are that dumb  cornpie | 04/23/08
They really are that dumb  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
linux  irishpride2275 | 04/23/08
Once again, no they really are that dumb...  cornpie | 04/24/08
Would it be a week or two? And yes, they might only know Windows.  Letophoro | 04/24/08
Wrong Question  croberts | 04/23/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/23/08
Encrypted Partitions  endermc12 | 04/23/08
If it's encrypted, they simple hold onto it  KaplanMike | 04/23/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  david@... | 04/23/08
Well, if it was an old machine ...  deowll | 04/23/08
As if  david@... | 04/24/08
Its a good thing they look  zdnet@... | 04/23/08
What about your thoughts?  shaggyct73 | 04/23/08
There may be reasons.  deowll | 04/23/08
Oh please  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
I bet criminals and terrorists encrypt  Your Mom 2.0 | 04/23/08
How big a threat?  deowll | 04/23/08
Exclusionary rule is all but gone ...  terry flores | 04/23/08
new idea?  Dr_Zinj | 04/24/08
Those weren't borders so much as frontiers ...  terry flores | 04/24/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  Riphly_z | 04/23/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  irishpride2275 | 04/23/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  hforman@... | 04/23/08
Some implications...  wizard_of_oz | 04/24/08
Where have you been??  terry flores | 04/24/08
How far will this go within our "Homeland"?  g-man_863 | 04/24/08
I'd like to know where you got this idea ...  terry flores | 04/24/08
Ooops...  g-man_863 | 04/30/08
Um, no.  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
This ruling seems to eliminate "plain view"  g-man_863 | 04/30/08
There's an old saying,  btljooz | 04/24/08
OOPS! Wrong place blush  btljooz | 04/24/08
OK, NOW I see how ZDN has changed things around.  btljooz | 04/24/08
Hey, ZDNet, you need to allow us to edit our  btljooz | 04/24/08
Where do you think you are?  Ole Man | 04/24/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  drmonteiro@... | 04/24/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  rkoman@... | 04/25/08
search laptops without suspicion  Lynne's Honey | 04/27/08
He got what he deserved  starcannon99022@... | 04/28/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  hitechguy79 | 04/28/08
Never assume a court knows more than you  dariced@... | 05/09/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  wburr@... | 07/04/08
RE: 9th Circuit: Feds can search laptops without suspicion  sock_it_2_the_man | 07/06/08

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